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Earth Day 2022 Edit-a-thon - April 22nd - 2PM EST[edit]
| You're invited! NYC Earth Day 2022 Edit-a-thon! April 22nd! | |
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 Sure We Can and the Environment of New York City Task Force invite you to join us for:
This Edit-a-Thon is part of a larger Earth Day celebration, hosted by Brooklyn based recycling and community center Sure We Can, that runs from 1PM-7PM and is open to the public! See this flyer for more information: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcGr4FyuqEa/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link | |
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TFA[edit]
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Thank you today for Dorothy Olsen, "about Dorothy Olsen, who flew military planes during World War II as a civilian member of the Women Airforce Service Pilots, ferrying newly built fighters and bombers from their factories where they were built to their embarkation points to Europe or Russia."! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:37, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
Magdalena Hinterdobler is on the Main page today, together with an opera that reviewers deemed not interesting and too obscure for our general readers. The soprano thought differently, - listen and see. - Also on the Main page: a TFA by sadly missed Vami_IV. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
Today's story mentions a concert I loved to hear and a piece I loved to sing in choir, 150 years old OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:28, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-19[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
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- The appearance of talk pages changed for all wikis, except for Commons, Wikidata and most Wikipedias (a few have already received this design change). You can read the detail of the changes on Diff. It is possible to opt-out these changes in user preferences ("Show discussion activity"). The deployment will happen at remaining wikis in the coming weeks. [1][2]
Interface admins now have greater control over the styling of article components on mobile with the introduction of the SiteAdminHelper. More information on how styles can be disabled can be found at the extension's page. [3]- Wikimedia Enterprise has added article body sections in JSON format and a curated short description field to the existing parsed Infobox. This expansion to the API is also available via Wikimedia Cloud Services. [4]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 May. It will be on all wikis from 9 May (calendar). [5][6]- When you look at the Special:Log page, the first view is labelled "All public logs", but it only shows some logs. This label will now say "Main public logs". [7]
Future changes
- A new service will be built to replace Extension:Graph. Details can be found in the latest update regarding this extension.
- Starting May 21, English Wikipedia and German Wikipedia will get the possibility to activate "Add a link". This is part of the progressive deployment of this tool to all Wikipedias. These communities can activate and configure the feature locally. [8]
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Tech News: 2024-20[edit]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- On Wikisource there is a special page listing pages of works without corresponding scan images. Now you can use the new magic word
__EXPECTWITHOUTSCANS__to exclude certain pages (list of editions or translations of works) from that list. [9] - If you use the user-preference "Show preview without reloading the page", then the template-page feature "Preview page with this template (what's this?)" will now also work without reloading the page. [10]
- Kartographer maps can now specify an alternative text via the
alt=attribute. This is identical in usage to thealt=attribute in the image and gallery syntax. An exception for this feature is wikis like Wikivoyage where the miniature maps are interactive. [11] - The old Guided Tour for the "New Filters for Edit Review" feature has been removed. It was created in 2017 to show people with older accounts how the interface had changed, and has now been seen by most of the intended people. [12]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 May. It will be on all wikis from 16 May (calendar). [13][14]
- The Special:Search results page will now use CSS flex attributes, for better accessibility, instead of a table. If you have a gadget or script that adjusts search results, you should update your script to the new HTML structure. [15]
Future changes
- In the Vector 2022 skin, main pages will be displayed at full width (like special pages). The goal is to keep the number of characters per line large enough. This is related to the coming changes to typography in Vector 2022. Learn more. [16]
- Two columns of the
pagelinksdatabase table (pl_namespaceandpl_title) are being dropped soon. Users must use two columns of the newlinktargettable instead (lt_namespaceandlt_title). In your existing SQL queries:- Replace
JOIN pagelinkswithJOIN linktargetandpl_withlt_in theONstatement - Below that add
JOIN pagelinks ON lt_id = pl_target_id
- See phab:T222224 for technical reasoning. [17][18]
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The Signpost: 16 May 2024[edit]
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Notelist[edit]
I couldn't help but notice your comment at Template:Did you know nominations/Environmental damage of Gaza caused by the Israel–Hamas war regarding multiple references. What is your opinion of the notelist currently at Piri#Notes? I plan on renominating that article for FA when I have six GAs.--Launchballer 15:53, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Um, interesting? I don't think I've ever seen anybody do it that way before. It certainly addresses the specific issue I raised about knowing which reference to look at for which piece of information. As for whether the folks at WP:FAC will like it, I don't know; I've found that I'm often a poor predictor of what the FAC-osphere likes and doesn't like. My suggestion is to ask at WT:FAC. Or maybe @Gog the Mild might be willing to offer an opinion. RoySmith (talk) 16:19, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Normally I would just stick the reference next to the bit it cites, but that violates WP:REFPUNCT. I'll see if Gog the Mild responds here and if not I'll try at the talk page.--Launchballer 16:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for the delay, I have been away. Personally I find the Piri approach irritating and unnecessary, which is not to say that whoever ends up source reviewing at FAC would oppose on the basis of it. What is wrong with the usual approach? Ie instead of note 1 have three separate cites, each in the appropriate place; as LB says. I fail to see how this violates WP:REFPUNC. (Which does not prohibit citing if there is no punctuation nearby, only placing the cite immediately before punctuation if any happens to be where the cite needs to be.) Gog the Mild (talk) 15:05, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- REFPUNCT (or CITEPUNCT) was raised as a concern at the first review, which (as you can probably tell) I remedied kicking and screaming. I think this could benefit from a wider hearing just in case I do get a reviewer bellyaching one way or another, but I need longer to form my argument.--Launchballer 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- I assume you're talking about WP:Featured article candidates/Piri/archive1#BennyOnTheLoose? I think @BennyOnTheLoose misinterpreted MOS:CITEPUNCT. The point of
Refs are placed after adjacent punctuation
is "If there's adjacent punctuation, put the ref after it", not "refs must only be placed adjacent to punctuation. Benny wrote "it's really good for verifiability right now, but not so good for readability". IMO, verifiability is king and trumps all other concerns. If making it look prettier impacts verifiability, you're emphasizing the wrong thing. - As far as
MOS:SEAOFBLUE forbids adjacent links of any kind, even ref tags
, I think that's silly. The point of SEAOFBLUE is to make it obvious that there's multiple links. Oyster bar is visually identical to Oyster bar, and that's what we are trying to prevent. But this [1][2] is clearly two different links; the punctuation makes it obvious.
- I assume you're talking about WP:Featured article candidates/Piri/archive1#BennyOnTheLoose? I think @BennyOnTheLoose misinterpreted MOS:CITEPUNCT. The point of
- REFPUNCT (or CITEPUNCT) was raised as a concern at the first review, which (as you can probably tell) I remedied kicking and screaming. I think this could benefit from a wider hearing just in case I do get a reviewer bellyaching one way or another, but I need longer to form my argument.--Launchballer 15:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Apologies for the delay, I have been away. Personally I find the Piri approach irritating and unnecessary, which is not to say that whoever ends up source reviewing at FAC would oppose on the basis of it. What is wrong with the usual approach? Ie instead of note 1 have three separate cites, each in the appropriate place; as LB says. I fail to see how this violates WP:REFPUNC. (Which does not prohibit citing if there is no punctuation nearby, only placing the cite immediately before punctuation if any happens to be where the cite needs to be.) Gog the Mild (talk) 15:05, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Normally I would just stick the reference next to the bit it cites, but that violates WP:REFPUNCT. I'll see if Gog the Mild responds here and if not I'll try at the talk page.--Launchballer 16:35, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
References
- ^ McGee, David. "King Street Oyster Bar". King Street Oyster Bar. Retrieved 22 May 2024.
- ^ "Grand Central Oyster Bar - New York, NY on OpenTable". OpenTable. Retrieved 22 May 2024.
RoySmith (talk) 18:07, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
- Noting and learning. I'd add - you don't have to do everything a reviewer suggests. I certainly don't. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:24, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-21[edit]
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Recent changes
- The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, will now correctly delete pages which were moved to another title. [19]
- New changes have been made to the UploadWizard in Wikimedia Commons: the overall layout has been improved, by following new styling and spacing for the form and its fields; the headers and helper text for each of the fields was changed; the Caption field is now a required field, and there is an option for users to copy their caption into the media description. [20][21]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 21 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 22 May. It will be on all wikis from 23 May (calendar). [22][23]
- The HTML used to render all headings is being changed to improve accessibility. It will change on 22 May in some skins (Timeless, Modern, CologneBlue, Nostalgia, and Monobook). Please test gadgets on your wiki on these skins and report any related problems so that they can be resolved before this change is made in all other skins. The developers are also considering the introduction of a Gadget API for adding buttons to section titles if that would be helpful to tool creators, and would appreciate any input you have on that.
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